[MURG] minduploading from within

[Randal A. Koene]

Hi Thomas,

While I'm sure many will find issues to debate with you, I find your post
thoroughly refreshing! :)

After all this high-talking about making money off of uploading this and
that - while we don't even know how to go about it - I'm gratified to see
someone contemplating some of the deeper issues about mind uploading.

I agree that an uploaded mind will progress to become something other than
"human". The prospects are fascinating. I haven't sat down to consider
what sort of mental preparations one may need to make prior to becoming
uploaded. My thought has been to set up the uploading procedure such that
the shock of the transition is minimized, with further changes to follow
in a piece-meal fashion.

Cheers,
       Randal

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Thomas Weber wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I (Thomas Weber) have been reading the MURG emails for
> quite a while with a great interest. To keep it short
> I get straight to the point. I think the whole
> discussion while doing an excellent job exploring mind
> uploading from the neuroscience end totally ignores or
> overlooks the psychological aspect of it. In my
> opinion the idea of uploading movie stars or their
> pets for money is totally flawed and will never work.
> Why? Because mind uploading is something that only you
> can do on your own behalf from within your own brain.
> Only once the mind has a sound understanding of itself
> as a bio-computer program it can start re-programing
> itself for post biological existence. Since the mind
> will operate in a post biological environment and be
> faced with practically infinite opportunities profound
> mind upgrading will be necessary. Having a bio-human
> mind in the post human reality will be a severe
> handicap. Therefore some essential parts of the mind
> will have to be dropped:
> 1. Fear or concern about health and death.
> 2. All instincts related to bio-food aquisition,
> consumption and bio-processing.
> 3. Sexual instincts
> 4. Sleep
> 5. All emotions and feelings toward other humans as we
> experience them now. A post human will be a be a
> different being with it,s own emotions and feeligs
>
> probably more profound.
> And there is of course more for further discussion.
> The approach which I would like to suggest is
> SELECTIVE MIND UPLOADING. And it goes like this:
> 1. The mind strives to fully understand it's
> "psycho-anatomy"
> 2. The mind makes a commitment to advance into a
> higher being. Such a commitment is attached to to a
> specific task(s) the mind wishes to accomplish. For
> many of us this may be related to our professional,
> academic or artistic capacities.
> 3. The mind(program) must make a decision which parts
> are to be dropped(deprogrammed) and which to be
> upprogrammed.
> 4. The mind comes to MURG asking for help.
>
> A few words about myself - I am 42 y.o. My background
> is in aviation and engineering. I currently work on a
> sophisticated aircraft design. When uploaded what I
> want to leave behind are all my bio-human griefs,
> fears, resentmens, guilts etc., all bio-human insticts
> as listed above and a few more unnecessary things.
> What I want to remain and expand on is the artist,
> designer and engineer who will be programmed to create
> the greatest aircraft he can possibly imagine.
> Kind Regards to you all,
> Thomas Weber
>
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