[MURG] minduploading from within

Thomas Weber aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca
Fri May 16 16:56:29 EST 2003


Hi Randall,
Thank you for your response and recognition of my
opinion. Transhumanity including mind uploading have
been my interest all my life. Sometimes I think i was
born transhuman. As you indicate that you haven't sat
down to think what kind of mental preparation we need
for MU - I have been doing just that for 8 years. I
subsequent communications I would like contribute
sharing some of my findings with you.
Kind Regards,
Thomas Weber





 --- "Randal A. Koene" <rak at minduploading.org> wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> While I'm sure many will find issues to debate with
> you, I find your post
> thoroughly refreshing! :)
> 
> After all this high-talking about making money off
> of uploading this and
> that - while we don't even know how to go about it -
> I'm gratified to see
> someone contemplating some of the deeper issues
> about mind uploading.
> 
> I agree that an uploaded mind will progress to
> become something other than
> "human". The prospects are fascinating. I haven't
> sat down to consider
> what sort of mental preparations one may need to
> make prior to becoming
> uploaded. My thought has been to set up the
> uploading procedure such that
> the shock of the transition is minimized, with
> further changes to follow
> in a piece-meal fashion.
> 
> Cheers,
>        Randal
> 
> On Wed, 14 May 2003, Thomas Weber wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > I (Thomas Weber) have been reading the MURG emails
> for
> > quite a while with a great interest. To keep it
> short
> > I get straight to the point. I think the whole
> > discussion while doing an excellent job exploring
> mind
> > uploading from the neuroscience end totally
> ignores or
> > overlooks the psychological aspect of it. In my
> > opinion the idea of uploading movie stars or their
> > pets for money is totally flawed and will never
> work.
> > Why? Because mind uploading is something that only
> you
> > can do on your own behalf from within your own
> brain.
> > Only once the mind has a sound understanding of
> itself
> > as a bio-computer program it can start
> re-programing
> > itself for post biological existence. Since the
> mind
> > will operate in a post biological environment and
> be
> > faced with practically infinite opportunities
> profound
> > mind upgrading will be necessary. Having a
> bio-human
> > mind in the post human reality will be a severe
> > handicap. Therefore some essential parts of the
> mind
> > will have to be dropped:
> > 1. Fear or concern about health and death.
> > 2. All instincts related to bio-food aquisition,
> > consumption and bio-processing.
> > 3. Sexual instincts
> > 4. Sleep
> > 5. All emotions and feelings toward other humans
> as we
> > experience them now. A post human will be a be a
> > different being with it,s own emotions and feeligs
> >
> > probably more profound.
> > And there is of course more for further
> discussion.
> > The approach which I would like to suggest is
> > SELECTIVE MIND UPLOADING. And it goes like this:
> > 1. The mind strives to fully understand it's
> > "psycho-anatomy"
> > 2. The mind makes a commitment to advance into a
> > higher being. Such a commitment is attached to to
> a
> > specific task(s) the mind wishes to accomplish.
> For
> > many of us this may be related to our
> professional,
> > academic or artistic capacities.
> > 3. The mind(program) must make a decision which
> parts
> > are to be dropped(deprogrammed) and which to be
> > upprogrammed.
> > 4. The mind comes to MURG asking for help.
> >
> > A few words about myself - I am 42 y.o. My
> background
> > is in aviation and engineering. I currently work
> on a
> > sophisticated aircraft design. When uploaded what
> I
> > want to leave behind are all my bio-human griefs,
> > fears, resentmens, guilts etc., all bio-human
> insticts
> > as listed above and a few more unnecessary things.
> > What I want to remain and expand on is the artist,
> > designer and engineer who will be programmed to
> create
> > the greatest aircraft he can possibly imagine.
> > Kind Regards to you all,
> > Thomas Weber
> >
> >
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