off-topic posts (was Re: [MURG] oh that joke was from)

Anna pantheon at ix.netcom.com
Sat Aug 28 09:00:22 EST 2004


< After
all, an uploaded mind is supposed to be a faithful,
working reproduction of an existing nervous system.>

It cannot as copy differs from the original in size.
Each time you would upload mind, it would become larger or smaller depending on 
medium used in copying.


Anna


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Minchau 
  To: murg at minduploading.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:50 AM
  Subject: Re: off-topic posts (was Re: [MURG] oh that joke was from)


  --- Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote: 
  > On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 02:47:20AM -0700, Anna
  > wrote:
  > 
  > > Dear Eugen, with all due respect, how do you
  > determine insanity 
  > > from someone's post? 
  > 
  > He has a history of delusional postings and private
  > communications, as well
  > as his personal web site.
  > 
  > > Is   'hacker' your patient?
  > 
  > No. That's why I didn't make a diagnosis. As a wild
  > guess, I presume it's
  > schizophrenia.
  >   

  From what I have read from neurohacker, even if we are
  successful in acheiving mind uploading, we couldn't
  help him.  He claims that (IIRC) nanoparticles have
  entered and disrupted his nervous system.

  Well, if mind uploading is successful, and his mind is
  uploaded, then any anomalies already present in his
  system would also be reflected in the upload.  After
  all, an uploaded mind is supposed to be a faithful,
  working reproduction of an existing nervous system.

  If an uploaded mind differs from the original, then
  the upload isn't successful.  If one is afflicted with
  any sort of mental disorder, whether caused by
  pollutants, genetics, or trauma, then that disorder
  would remain in the uploaded mind.

  This raises the question: could an uploaded mind be
  "fixed"?  ie if I am an asshole before upload, can I
  be made into a pleasant personality afterwards?  I
  don't think I would still be the same person if that
  is the case.

  Ed

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