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Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 02:47:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: sivanand murugesan <sivanand_m at yahoo.com>
To: murg at minduploading.org
Subject: [MURG] Re: MURG digest, Vol 1 #159 - 3 msgs
Reply-To: murg at minduploading.org
Hi,
Sorry my previous mail was corrupt and when i tried to
resend it again it had some problems.
My idea was, why not we set up a educational
institution that teaches all the subjects related to
mind uploading, this includes Computing,
Neuro-science,
Implant techniques, Nanotech etc. This has several
advantages:
would not on
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> 1. Re: minduploading from within (Thomas Weber)
> 2. Re: minduploading from within (Thomas Weber)
> 3. ["david burson" <david.burson at verizon.net>]
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:34:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Thomas Weber <aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [MURG] minduploading from within
> To: murg at minduploading.org
>
> --- king-yin yan <y.k.y at lycos.com> wrote: > Ed
> Minchau wrote:
> > >The talk of funding is necessary, to a point;
> but,
> > it
> > >must be understood that once we finally upload a
> > >human being successfully, everything changes.
> The
> > >result would not be just an upload, but a
> > _human-level
> > >artificial intelligence_. The person could be
> > copied
> > >easily, once you have one, you could make more -
> > each
> > >that same person, but on divergent parallel
> > timelines.
> >
> > Why would you assume everyone will be interested
> in
> > making copies? I'm into fusion. You don't have to
> > fuse
> > with me though, calm down =)
> > Thomas Weber:
> As making copies will be possible and useful in
> some
> circumstances some uploads will go for it, some will
> explore other options.
>
> > >What would money mean to an uploaded person?
> What
> > >would it mean to a mind that could be transmitted
> > to a
> > >robotic body on the moon?
> >
> > I don't see much difference. Information cannot
> > exist
> > independent of matter and energy, and hence it
> will
> > depend on the economy and society just the same.
> >
> > ========
> >
> > >Thomas Weber wrote:
> > >> > will have to be dropped:
> > >> > 1. Fear or concern about health and death.
> > >> > 2. All instincts related to bio-food
> > aquisition,
> > >> > consumption and bio-processing.
> > >> > 3. Sexual instincts
> > >> > 4. Sleep
> > >> > 5. All emotions and feelings toward other
> > humans
> > >> as we
> > >> > experience them now.
> >
> > Hi Thomas =)
> >
> > You want to drop sexual instincts, I may not. What
> > transpires
> > is MU is probably going to be very personal. It's
> > just like how
> > we make use of our PCs differently.
> Thomas Weber: MU is not a single trail. You are
> right
> it has to be very personal for each of us. We must
> therefore be careful with projecting our plans to
> others. You don't have to drop sexual instincts,
> neither do I. I just don't see that much use for it
> after uploaded. But if we want to - being able to
> design ourselves as we please we may exist as
> really
> good looking androids and go after the prittiest
> girls
> in town.
> > > >> When uploaded what I want to leave behind are
> all
> >
> > >> my bio-human griefs, fears, resentmens, guilts
> > >> etc., all bio-human insticts as listed above
> and
> > a >
> > >few more unnecessary things.
> >
> > Hehe it sounds like your current life sucks.
> > Thomas:
> Hehe yours doesn't? Why then you want to so
> dramatically improve it???
> > YKY
> >
> >
> >
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:56:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Thomas Weber <aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [MURG] minduploading from within
> To: murg at minduploading.org
>
> Hi Randall,
> Thank you for your response and recognition of my
> opinion. Transhumanity including mind uploading have
> been my interest all my life. Sometimes I think i
> was
> born transhuman. As you indicate that you haven't
> sat
> down to think what kind of mental preparation we
> need
> for MU - I have been doing just that for 8 years. I
> subsequent communications I would like contribute
> sharing some of my findings with you.
> Kind Regards,
> Thomas Weber
>
>
>
>
>
> --- "Randal A. Koene" <rak at minduploading.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > While I'm sure many will find issues to debate
> with
> > you, I find your post
> > thoroughly refreshing! :)
> >
> > After all this high-talking about making money off
> > of uploading this and
> > that - while we don't even know how to go about it
> -
> > I'm gratified to see
> > someone contemplating some of the deeper issues
> > about mind uploading.
> >
> > I agree that an uploaded mind will progress to
> > become something other than
> > "human". The prospects are fascinating. I haven't
> > sat down to consider
> > what sort of mental preparations one may need to
> > make prior to becoming
> > uploaded. My thought has been to set up the
> > uploading procedure such that
> > the shock of the transition is minimized, with
> > further changes to follow
> > in a piece-meal fashion.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Randal
> >
> > On Wed, 14 May 2003, Thomas Weber wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > I (Thomas Weber) have been reading the MURG
> emails
> > for
> > > quite a while with a great interest. To keep it
> > short
> > > I get straight to the point. I think the whole
> > > discussion while doing an excellent job
> exploring
> > mind
> > > uploading from the neuroscience end totally
> > ignores or
> > > overlooks the psychological aspect of it. In my
> > > opinion the idea of uploading movie stars or
> their
> > > pets for money is totally flawed and will never
> > work.
> > > Why? Because mind uploading is something that
> only
> > you
> > > can do on your own behalf from within your own
> > brain.
> > > Only once the mind has a sound understanding of
> > itself
> > > as a bio-computer program it can start
> > re-programing
> > > itself for post biological existence. Since the
> > mind
> > > will operate in a post biological environment
> and
> > be
> > > faced with practically infinite opportunities
> > profound
> > > mind upgrading will be necessary. Having a
> > bio-human
> > > mind in the post human reality will be a severe
> > > handicap. Therefore some essential parts of the
> > mind
> > > will have to be dropped:
> > > 1. Fear or concern about health and death.
> > > 2. All instincts related to bio-food aquisition,
> > > consumption and bio-processing.
> > > 3. Sexual instincts
> > > 4. Sleep
> > > 5. All emotions and feelings toward other humans
> > as we
> > > experience them now. A post human will be a be a
> > > different being with it,s own emotions and
> feeligs
> > >
> > > probably more profound.
> > > And there is of course more for further
> > discussion.
> > > The approach which I would like to suggest is
> > > SELECTIVE MIND UPLOADING. And it goes like this:
> > > 1. The mind strives to fully understand it's
> > > "psycho-anatomy"
> > > 2. The mind makes a commitment to advance into a
> > > higher being. Such a commitment is attached to
> to
> > a
> > > specific task(s) the mind wishes to accomplish.
> > For
> > > many of us this may be related to our
> > professional,
> > > academic or artistic capacities.
> > > 3. The mind(program) must make a decision which
> > parts
> > > are to be dropped(deprogrammed) and which to be
> > > upprogrammed.
> > > 4. The mind comes to MURG asking for help.
> > >
> > > A few words about myself - I am 42 y.o. My
> > background
> > > is in aviation and engineering. I currently work
> > on a
> > > sophisticated aircraft design. When uploaded
> what
> > I
> > > want to leave behind are all my bio-human
> griefs,
> > > fears, resentmens, guilts etc., all bio-human
> > insticts
> > > as listed above and a few more unnecessary
> things.
> > > What I want to remain and expand on is the
> artist,
> > > designer and engineer who will be programmed to
> > create
> > > the greatest aircraft he can possibly imagine.
> > > Kind Regards to you all,
> > > Thomas Weber
> > >
> > >
> >
>
______________________________________________________________________
> > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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> > > http://minduploading.org/mailman/listinfo/murg
> > >
> >
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> Eberhard. "Over the next two years, we expect to
> expand considerably the
> knowledge base that allows us to practice
> architecture."
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On Sun, 18 May 2003, sivanand murugesan wrote:
> Sorry my previous mail was corrupt and when i tried to
>resend it again it had some problems.
> My idea was, why not we set up a educational
> institution that teaches all the subjects related to
> mind uploading, this includes Computing,
> Neuro-science,
> Implant techniques, Nanotech etc. This has several
> advantages:
>
> 1. Gives us credibility
> 2. Help us muster funds continually and gives us
> opportunity to get government aids.
> 3. Bringing in and nurturing fresh talent
> 4. actively engaging in R & D of MU and in the other
> related fields
> Hi,
>
> Sorry my previous mail was corrupt and when i tried to
> resend it again it had some problems.
>
> My idea was, why not we set up a educational
> institution that teaches all the subjects related to
> mind uploading, this includes Computing,
> Neuro-science,
> Implant techniques, Nanotech etc. This has several
> advantages:
>
> 1. Gives us credibility
> 2. Help us muster funds continually and gives us
> opportunity to get government aids.
> 3. Bringing in and nurturing fresh talent
> 4. actively engaging in R & D of MU and in the other
> related fields
>
> any comments.
>
> cheers
> siva
>
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> >
> > > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: minduploading from within (Thomas Weber)
> > 2. Re: minduploading from within (Thomas Weber)
> > 3. ["david burson" <david.burson at verizon.net>]
> > AIArchitect, May 19, 2003 - Neuroscience Research
> > Grains Support from Legacy Pr (cat13 at illrepute.org)
> >
>
> > ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822
> > Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:34:52 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Thomas Weber <aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [MURG] minduploading from within
> > To: murg at minduploading.org
> >
> > --- king-yin yan <y.k.y at lycos.com> wrote: > Ed
> > Minchau wrote:
> > > >The talk of funding is necessary, to a point;
> > but,
> > > it
> > > >must be understood that once we finally upload a
> > > >human being successfully, everything changes.
> > The
> > > >result would not be just an upload, but a
> > > _human-level
> > > >artificial intelligence_. The person could be
> > > copied
> > > >easily, once you have one, you could make more -
> > > each
> > > >that same person, but on divergent parallel
> > > timelines.
> > >
> > > Why would you assume everyone will be interested
> > in
> > > making copies? I'm into fusion. You don't have to
> > > fuse
> > > with me though, calm down =)
> > > Thomas Weber:
> > As making copies will be possible and useful in
> > some
> > circumstances some uploads will go for it, some will
> > explore other options.
> >
> > > >What would money mean to an uploaded person?
> > What
> > > >would it mean to a mind that could be transmitted
> > > to a
> > > >robotic body on the moon?
> > >
> > > I don't see much difference. Information cannot
> > > exist
> > > independent of matter and energy, and hence it
> > will
> > > depend on the economy and society just the same.
> > >
> > > ========
> > >
> > > >Thomas Weber wrote:
> > > >> > will have to be dropped:
> > > >> > 1. Fear or concern about health and death.
> > > >> > 2. All iom architecture, that has been in the
> works
> > for 18 months, marks
> > a "new beginning bursting with potential," said
> > Alison M. Whitelaw, San
> > Diego Architectural Foundation president, who
> > announced the legacy
> > project at the same session.
> >
> > The foundation, with the support of the AIA national
> > component and its
> > leadership, established the not-for-profit academy
> > to collect and
> > disseminate hard scientific data on links that,
> > Whitelaw said, will
> > validate existing hypotheses or provide new findings
> > to bridge
> > neuroscience research and architecture studies. The
> > academy's San Diego
> > location will take advantage of the area's nexus of
> > neuroscience experts
> > and activities.
> >
> > An advisory committee of architects and
> > neuroscientists is developing
> > short- and long-term planning goals and, with an
> > organizing committee
> > primarily composed of San Diego architects, is
> > working out the academy's
> > management, communication, and business matters.
> > Among them are plans to
> > identify potential funding sources, establish
> > workshops, line up
> > projects in architecture education, and develop
> > videos and aD
> > and
> > > a >
> > > >few more unnecessary things.
> > >
> > > Hehe it sounds like your current life sucks.
> > > Thomas:
> > Hehe yours doesn't? Why then you want to so
> > dramatically improve it???
> > > YKY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ____________________________________________________________
> > > Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail
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> >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
> >
>
> > ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822
> > Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:56:29 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Thomas Weber <aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [MURG] minduploading from within
> > To: murg at minduploading.org
> >
> > Hi Randall,
> > Thank you for your response and recognition of my
> > opinion. Transhumanity including mind uploading have
> > been my interest all my life. Sometimes I think i
> > was
> > born transhuman. As you indicate that you haven't
> > sat
> > down to think what kind of mental preparation we
> > need
> > for MU - I have been doing just that for 8 years. I
> > subsequent communications I would like contribute
> > sharing some of my findings with you.
> > Kind Regards,
> > Thomas Weber
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Randal A. Koene" <rak at minduploading.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Thomas,
> > >
> > > While I'm sure many will find issues to debate
> > with
> > > you, I find your post
> > > thoroughly refreshing! :)
> > >
> > > After all this high-talking about making money off
> > > of uploading this and
> > > that - while we don't even know how to go about it
> > -
> > > I'm gratified to see
> > > someone contemplating some of the deeper issues
> > > about mind uploading.
> > >
> > > I agree that an uploaded mind will progress to
> > > become something other than
> > > "human". The prospects are fascinating. I haven't
> > > sat down to consider
> > > what sort of mental preparations one may need to
> > > make prior to becoming
> > > uploaded. My thought has been to set up the
> > > uploading procedure such that
> > > the shock of the transition is minimized, with
> > > further changes to follow
> > > in a piece-meal fashion.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Randal
> > >
> > > On Wed, 14 May 2003, Thomas Weber wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > I (Thomas Weber) have been reading the MURG
> > emails
> > > for
> > > > quite a while with a great interest. To keep it
> > > short
> > > > I get straight to the point. I think the whole
> > > > discussion while doing an excellent job
> > exploring
> > > mind
> > > > uploading from the neuroscience end totally
> > > ignores or
> > > > overlooks the psychological aspect of it. In my
> > > > opinion the idea of uploading movie stars or
> > their
> > > > pets for money is totally flawed and will never
> > > work.
> > > > Why? Because mind uploading is something that
> > only
> > > you
> > > > can do on your own behalf from within your own
> > > brain.
> > > > Only once the mind has a sound understanding of
> > > itself
> > > > as a bio-computer program it can start
> > > re-programing
> > > > itself for post biological existence. Since the
> > > mind
> > > > will operate in a post biological environment
> > and
> > > be
> > > > faced with practically infinite opportunities
> > > profound
> > > > mind upgrading will be necessary. Having a
> > > bio-human
> > > > mind in the post human reality will be a severe
> > > > handicap. Therefore some essential parts of the
> > > mind
> > > > will have to be dropped:
> > > > 1. Fear or concern about health and death.
> > > > 2. All instincts related to bio-food aquisition,
> > > > consumption and bio-processing.
> > > > 3. Sexual instincts
> > > > 4. Sleep
> > > > 5. All emotions and feelings toward other humans
> > > as we
> > > > experience them now. A post human will be a be a
> > > > different being with it,s own emotions and
> > feeligs
> > > >
> > > > probably more profound.
> > > > And there is of course more for further
> > > discussion.
> > > > The approach which I would like to suggest is
> > > > SELECTIVE MIND UPLOADING. And it goes like this:
> > > > 1. The mind strives to fully understand it's
> > > > "psycho-anatomy"
> > > > 2. The mind makes a commitment to advance into a
> > > > higher being. Such a commitment is attached to
> > to
> > > a
> > > > specific task(s) the mind wishes to accomplish.
> > > For
> > > > many of us this may be related to our
> > > professional,
> > > > academic or artistic capacities.
> > > > 3. The mind(program) must make a decision which
> > > parts
> > > > are to be dropped(deprogrammed) and which to be
> > > > upprogrammed.
> > > > 4. The mind comes to MURG asking for help.
> > > >
> > > > A few words about myself - I am 42 y.o. My
> > > background
> > > > is in aviation and engineering. I currently work
> > > on a
> > > > sophisticated aircraft design. When uploaded
> > what
> > > I
> > > > want to leave behind are all my bio-human
> > griefs,
> > > > fears, resentmens, guilts etc., all bio-human
> > > insticts
> > > > as listed above and a few more unnecessary
> > things.
> > > > What I want to remain and expand on is the
> > artist,
> > > > designer and engineer who will be programmed to
> > > create
> > > > the greatest aircraft he can possibly imagine.
> > > > Kind Regards to you all,
> > > > Thomas Weber
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
> > > > ____________om architecture, that has been in
> the works
> > for 18 months, marks
> > a "new beginning bursting with potential," said
> > Alison M. Whitelaw, San
> > Diego Architectural Foundation president, who
> > announced the legacy
> > project at the same session.
> >
> > The foundation, with the support of the AIA national
> > component and its
> > leadership, established the not-for-profit academy
> > to collect and
> > disseminate hard scientific data on links that,
> > Whitelaw said, will
> > validate existing hypotheses or provide new findings
> > to bridge
> > neuroscience research and architecture studies. The
> > academy's San Diego
> > location will take advantage of the area's nexus of
> > neuroscience experts
> > and activities.
> >
> > An advisory committee of architects and
> > neuroscientists is developing
> > short- and long-term planning goals and, with an
> > organizing committee
> > primarily composed of San Diego architects, is
> > working out the academy's
> > management, communication, and business matters.
> > Among them are plans to
> > identify potential funding sources, establish
> > workshops, line up
> > projects in architecture education, and develop
> > videos and a3Ceburson at andrew.cmu.edu>
> %0om
> architecture, that has been in the works
> > for 18 months, marks
> > a "new beginning bursting with potential," said
> > Alison M. Whitelaw, San
> > Diego Architectural Foundation president, who
> > announced the legacy
> > project at the same session.
> >
> > The foundation, with the support of the AIA national
> > component and its
> > leadership, established the not-for-profit academy
> > to collect and
> > disseminate hard scientific data on links that,
> > Whitelaw said, will
> > validate existing hypotheses or provide new findings
> > to bridge
> > neuroscience research and architecture studies. The
> > academy's San Diego
> > location will take advantage of the area's nexus of
> > neuroscience experts
> > and activities.
> >
> > An advisory committee of architects and
> > neuroscientists is developing
> > short- and long-term planning goals and, with an
> > organizing committee
> > primarily composed of San Diego architects, is
> > working out the academy's
> > management, communication, and business matters.
> > Among them are plans to
> > identify potential funding sources, establish
> > workshops, line up
> > projects in architecture education, and develop
> > videos and a2F/www.aia.org/aiarchitect/rom
> architecture, that has been in the works
> > for 18 months, marks
> > a "new beginning bursting with potential," said
> > Alison M. Whitelaw, San
> > Diego Architectural Foundation president, who
> > announced the legacy
> > project at the same session.
> >
> > The foundation, with the support of the AIA national
> > component and its
> > leadership, established the not-for-profit academy
> > to collect and
> > disseminate hard scientific data on links that,
> > Whitelaw said, will
> > validate existing hypotheses or provide new findings
> > to bridge
> > neuroscience research and architecture studies. The
> > academy's San Diego
> > location will take advantage of the area's nexus of
> > neuroscience experts
> > and activities.
> >
> > An advisory committee of architects and
> > neuroscientists is developing
> > short- and long-term planning goals and, with an
> > organizing committee
> > primarily composed of San Diego architects, is
> > working out the academy's
> > management, communication, and business matters.
> > Among them are plans to
> > identify potential funding sources, establish
> > workshops, line up
> > projects in architecture education, and develop
> > videos and as and responds to
> > cues from architecture, that has been in the works
> > for 18 months, marks
> > a "new beginning bursting with potential," said
> > Alison M. Whitelaw, San
> > Diego Architectural Foundation president, who
> > announced the legacy
> > project at the same session.
> >
> > The foundation, with the support of the AIA national
> > component and its
> > leadership, established the not-for-profit academy
> > to collect and
> > disseminate hard scientific data on links that,
> > Whitelaw said, will
> > validate existing hypotheses or provide new findings
> > to bridge
> > neuroscience research and architecture studies. The
> > academy's San Diego
> > location will take advantage of the area's nexus of
> > neuroscience experts
> > and activities.
> >
> > An advisory committee of architects and
> > neuroscientists is developing
> > short- and long-term planning goals and, with an
> > organizing committee
> > primarily composed of San Diego architects, is
> > working out the academy's
> > management, communication, and business matters.
> > Among them are plans to
> > identify potential funding sources, establish
> > workshops, line up
> > projects in architecture education, and develop
> > videos and an Internet
> > site.
> >
> > Neuroscience research receives $100,000 from College
> > of Fellows
> > The winning proposal, "Fundamental Neuroscience
> > Research and Development
> > for Architecture," a project presented by John P.
> > Eberhard, FAIA, seeks
> > to define and study the links between neuroscience
> > and the built
> > environment that are the focus of the academy.
> >
> >
> >
> <http://www.aia.org/aiarchitect/thisweek03/tw0509/expo2003/expo0509eberh
> > ard1.jpg> The grant, named for architect Benjamin
> > Henry Latrobe, is
> > awarded biennially by the AIA College of Fellows for
> > research leading to
> > significant advances in the architecture profession.
> > The award was
> > doubled from $50,000 to $100,000 this year. The
> > jury, which Damianos
> > stressed was not affiliated with the legacy project
> > organizers, included
> > Chair Cynthia Weese, FAIA, dean of the Washington
> > University School of
> > Architecture; Thomas W. Ventulett, FAIA, principal
> > of AIA Firm Award
> > Winner TVS & Associates; Robert Geddes, FAIA, Topaz
> > Medallion winner;
> > Robert A. Odermatt, FAIA, former College of Fellows
> > chancellor and
> > founder of the Latrobe Fellowship program; and
> > Sylvester Damianos, FAIA,
> > 2003 chancellor of the College of Fellows. The jury
> > complimented all the
> > grant proposals for promoting significant research
> > that strengthens the
> > profession.
> >
> > "We enormously appreciate the support of the College
> > of Fellows," said
> > Eberhard. "Over the next two years, we expect to
> > expand considerably the
> > knowledge base that allows us to practice
> > architecture."
> >
> > Copyright 2003 The American Institute of Architects.
> > All rights
> > reserved. Home Page <http://www.aia.org>
> >
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