[MURG] The main problem...
Ed Minchau
spider_boris at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 7 04:10:04 EST 2004
I would not be so quick to dismiss this. There is no
qualitative difference between a "human-level" AI and
an uploaded mind, only the route chosen. Supposing
that a human-level AI would not be sentient is to deny
that it is a human-level AI at all (since humans are
AFAIK sentient).
Part of the problem with this discussion is that we
are trying to predict what would happen after the
Singularity (heralded by the arrival of human-level
AI); a time beyond which predictions become
impossible. It isn't that we don't know, we _cannot_
know.
Ed
--- Yan King Yin <y.k.y at lycos.com> wrote: > From:
"Scalino Corleone"
> <scalinocorleone at hotmail.com>
>
> > I've always thought that the main problem to
> achieve a true
> > human-grade AI was not the processing power (it is
> of course
> > abosolutely required) but rather: how to program
> intention ?
>
> Intention, or sentience (having human-like
> emotions), are not
> necessarily required for an AI to function as a
> useful tool.
> An AI can simply have rigid goal structures.
>
> [ If you want to discuss this further, a good place
> is the AGI
> or SL4 mailing lists. ]
>
> > That's why I think that mind uploading will be
> achieved much
> > more sooner than such an AI.
>
> The term "human-grade" AI is ill-defined and as such
> is not
> very meaningful. A human-level AI can simply be a
> tool without
> sentience, and as such we're not afraid of them. As
> for
> sentient AIs, I have already said this: "If AI can
> do X, AI
> can do X without sentience." It's redundant.
>
> Facts:
> 1. Utility-type AIs will arrive before uploading.
> 2. Sentient AIs will arrive about the same time as
> uploading.
>
> The discussion re whether AI will take over is very
> stupid.
> AI will not replace us unless we want that to
> happen. The
> only way for it to happen is that a majoring of
> humans
> choose to opt for having sentient AI offsprings
> (themselves
> retiring / dying off); this will result in uploads
> being
> outnumbered and outcompeted. Otherwise this will not
> happen.
>
> Case closed.
> YKY
>
>
>
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