[MURG] Speed ups

[Randal A. Koene]

Hi Keith,

Okay. While I didn't intend a perfect analogy, to appease your qualms I'll
add this: The mind uploaded me has memory, i.e. I am able to remember what
I spoke/wrote about before. This is something humans have been able to do
in regular letter mail, well before the advent of email and quoting in
replies. This should not be a significant stumbling block for a
non-moronic upload.

Cheers,
       Randal

On Mon, 24 May 2004, Keith Wiley wrote:

> Not entirely.  We also include the past portion of an email conversation
> so we can relate back to it when we get an eventual response.  We can't
> hold all these simultaneous longterm conversations with different people
> in our heads, all the while also living out the rest of our daily lives.
> We need to refresh ourselves with each particular conversation each time
> we get a response and need to dwell on it for a few moments.  My point
> isn't for or against anything, only that the analogy is incomplete.  The
> two forms of communication in debate here are fairly different in some
> respects.
>
> On Mon, 24 May 2004, Randal A. Koene wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I read Eugene's suggested speed ups for uploads with some surprise. As I
> > recall, Eugene, you believe that we need to emulate at a very low level to
> > achieve whole brain emulation. Howcome you simultaneously propose such
> > gigantic speed ups? Those speed ups seem more feasible in an abstract
> > emulation, the kind that those on the other end of the level-of-detail
> > spectrum at MURG propose.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm not too worried about fast-slow communication. If I'm a
> > super-fast upload and I'm trying to talk face-to-face with a regular human
> > being, then if my thought processes are so much faster the conversation
> > will simply appear as a form of written communication does now. Think
> > about it, we can think of a reply to an email (or paper letter) quite
> > rapidly, and even write and send it pretty quickly. Then we have to wait
> > an unspecified amount of time for a reply. And yet, we are well able to
> > communicate that way.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >        Randal
> >
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