[MURG] Real / Not real world?

[John Latimer]

Hey there,

I agree entirely that the "Real World" shall set the
pace for all intelligence pre or post uploading.

There is a rythm to all life, and that rythm is not
mutable.  The simple fact that our perception is that
the speed of light is never changing evidences that
our perception is intrinsically timed with the speed
of light.  Of course the speed of light changes, but
our experience of life does not allow us to perceive
it since the "speed of life" changes right along with
the "speed of light".

I understand the concept of advancing the "reference"
speed in such a manner that the simulation will run
faster with out being aware of the change, but in the
end, it would be just that: a simulation.  At the rate
of 3000 years of simulation per day of reality as has
been suggested, their would be a serious shortage of
content for the simulation to emulate.  Information
and experience can only be stretched so far.

If the goal is to go on living, then the requirement
must be to continue experiencing life.  I continue to
propose that life exists at and in conjunction with
the speed of light.  The information flow and
experiences that add up to living can only be sampled
at the rate that reality offers it. (excepting for
compressed data which would still allow for the same
net sum in the end.)

John L.

--- Thomas Weber <aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > 
> >Thomas Weber:
> The "Real World" is not slow or fast. It simply is.
> And it is the only world in which the upload will
> exist. I am familiar with the concept of the
> uploaded
> mind existing in the virtual reality perhaps 32
> times
> faster than "the real world", but this sounds to me
> like a cyber-psychotic condition. Our thoughts,
> dreams, visions and other mental activities other
> than
> actual perception can be refered to as neuro-virtual
> reality. And yes we can dream up situations occuring
> in our our minds 32 times faster than the "real
> world"
> which is useful for planning and considering various
> options. If however at some point we don't connect
> our
> mental process to reality we are said to be
> psychotic
> - loosing touch with reality. The mind is a
> reflection
> of the real world and it is the only place in which
> it
> can exist on long term basis.
> We can compare a snail's mind and a human mind. Both
> exist in the real world which is neither too fast
> for
> the snail or too slow for the human. But the serious
> difference in the processing speed between the snail
> and the human is the reason for the mentioned social
> concern. Snails and humans don't socialize much.
> Similiar difference may exist between and upload and
> and a flesh human which most probably will cause
> social concerns and other various ramifications.
> Thomas
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John A. Latimer



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