[MURG] Re: X-Prize

[Brubaker, Shane]

Hi Sim, this looks good!  One question, I'm sorry if I missed this
earlier, but why the whole body and not just the mind?  Was this because
people are worried about the effects of the rest of the nervous system?

Also, when you say it has to not harm the individual, does this imply
you want it done to a live person?  What about a cryonics patient?

Sorry I have not been more involved in this, I know I said I wanted to
do something with it.  I've been busy starting a new job, and it seemed
like there needed to be a lot of discussion first, much of which you
seem to have incorporated.

Thanks,
Shane

-----Original Message-----
From: murg-admin at minduploading.org [mailto:murg-admin at minduploading.org]
On Behalf Of Sim Bamford
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:54 PM
To: murg at minduploading.org
Subject: [MURG] Re: X-Prize

 >>Safe? Are talking soft upload here or a non
 >>destructive scan? IOW, I
 >>think again the language is imprecise for describing
 >>the process. A
 >>destructive slice and scan would be anything but
 >>safe for the uploader
 >>and who knows until dome for the uploadee.

I'm talking safe for the person who is volunteering for the 
scanning or recording process, and therefore non-destructive.


 >>Why model any environment? Simulate or devise direct
 >>input sensory
 >>information and let *the* environment be the world
 >>the upload
 >>experiences. The same one we all do but in this case
 >>for the upload as
 >>close to robotic body sensing as we can for what we
 >>expect to be
 >>possible one day for remote sensing by robotic
 >>bodied uploads.

I believe that's a whole other level of technical challenge. 
Although it may be that the problems involved in the above become 
tractable well before precise scanning and simulation becomes 
possible. I invisage this test taking place within a simple 
limited indoors environment which could be relatively easily 
modelled.

Simeon, pardon my continued impertinence but with
 > all deference and
 > respect to your preference for the  simulation over
 > other
 > characterizations of what we call an upload I think
 > it is best to use
 > language that is more widely agreed upon. Perhaps I
 > am wrong and haven't
 > a clue but I just have the feeling that *emulation*
 > is more widely
 > understood in the various fields to represent an
 > actual duplicative
 > upload of a human mind/brain than the word
 > *simulation* denotes or
 > better yet implies.

Maybe this is a british english vs whereever-you're-from-english 
issue (I'm sorry, I've lost the original of this message), but to 
my mind these terms are virtually identical. As for usage, think 
"flight simulation". What does anyone else think about this?

Cheers
Sim
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