[MURG] Uploading via memory implants?

Thomas Weber aad1trailmaker at yahoo.ca
Mon Nov 29 16:34:54 EST 2004


Eric:
> That all said: I think such a system would provide a
> wealth of
> scientific data with high temporal and spatial
> specificity, but likely
> not nearly enough to recreate the mind.

Thomas: This may make the experiment worth it. Such a
wealth of scientific data can certainly be utilized in
mind uploading research. Even if mind uploading is not
fully successful on the first attempt.

Eric:
 An attempt
> to use this method
> of uploading would probably create a mind similar to
> that which would
> result from a massive stroke: relative to the
> original, biological
> brain, you'd have massive cell loss and probably a
> comatose mind.

Thomas: A massive stroke is a sudden event. Gradual
tranfer of mind to the computer would take some time:
weeks to several years. During the uploading process
communication would be taking place back and forth
between the brain and the computer. The resulting
computer counterpart may indeed be comatose at first,
but this being noticed by the parent brain, necessary
adjustments will be made as it goes.

Eric:
 Even
> if you found a way to get around that, without the
> limbic system the
> mind would be unable to make long-term memories (no
> hippocampus) or
> express emotions (no amygdala) or even perform motor
> tasks (no basal
> ganglia).

Thomas:
No hippocampus? No problem, we can make one. This
version of mind uploading will require reconstruction
of the brain / mind dynamics in a non organic system.
As far as memories are concerned - it is very easy to
add memory capacity and memory retrieval programs
which will serve both long and short term memory
requirements.
As the experiment goes on - functional emotions can be
added by intalling programs managing energy flows
within the system. Some robotic version of the person
will have to be created to handle all motoric tasks.
My personal vision of mind uploading success is
achieving a point where:
1. An idividual's mental activity is shared between 
his/her brain and a computer via intimate connection.
2. A stage is reached where the mental activities are
dominated by the computer.
3. The brain is separated from the computer (it dies)
  , but there is sufficient mental activity in the
computer so the mental process will continue.

My prediction is that when all remaining neurons go -
it may indeed feel to the the brand new upload as
though he/she had a massive stroke. But he/she will
have an option to create new circuits and qickly
replace missing functions. When the still alive brain
sleeps - will be a good time for the computer housed
mind to practice functioning without it.

Kind Regards'
Thomas 





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